Lieutenant Alister Witt Royal Navy and
Lieutenant Nic Vines Royal Navy are both ex-local authority
trained EHOs. Tracey Khanna talks to them about the transition
from civilian to military practice
Tracey Khanna: What were the main reasons for swapping
local authority enforcement work for environmental health in the
Royal Navy?
Lieutenant Nic Vines, Royal Navy: About seven years ago,
I worked with an ex-army EHO and he talked about his experience
in the army, which interested me. At the time, none of the services
took direct entry graduates and that only recently changed in April
1999, with the Royal Navy. In December 2001, I found out that there
was a post available with the Royal Navy as an EHO so I seized the
opportunity.
The reason I decided to go from local government into a military
environment was because I thought it was going to be a challenge.
I imagined that it would be different to what I'd experienced in
the past and felt that I was going to be working for an organised
and proactive organisation in a completely different environment.
Lieutenant Alister Witt, Royal Navy: The main appeal for
me was that I perceived the armed forces to be out there doing the
basics of what I thought environmental health was - setting up field
sanitation systems and water systems etc. I also wanted a job where
I could be involved in all areas of environmental health, not just
one particular discipline like food safety.
TK:Was the transition from a local authority environment
to a military environment a difficult one to make?
NV: I joined up at 33, which is a fairly late age, after
working for local government for eight years, where the most amount
of physical exercise I did was to play rugby. I had to go through
the gruelling three-day Admiralty Interview Board (AIB) where you
have to undertake a range of intelligence tests, psychometric tests,
and leadership tasks. After that I did two terms of officer training
at Britannia Royal Naval College in Dartmouth where people get pushed
physically and mentally for seven months, which was challenging.
AW: My only experience of local authority was during my
practical training year. Personally, I've found the working environment
to be much more professionally rewarding. When I joined the Royal
Navy in 1999, and undertook my first few inspections, I found that
we'd have a whole day to go on board a ship to identify any problems
and have the time to educate and resolve problems there and then.
TK:So do you feel that you have a more holistic approach
to environmental health now?
AW: I think so. When we undertake a routine inspection we
are seen as in-house advisors and people appear more open and interested
in what we have to say. We go in to educate and are involved across
the board in all areas of environmental health, including food safety,
water quality, occupational health and infectious disease control.
NV: We don't have any enforcement powers, but we work within
a disciplined and hierarchical organisation and when we go on board
we recommend improvements and it is then up to the command of that
vessel to act upon our advice.
AW: To give an example of that, a couple of years ago we
had to deal with a difficult water issue. One of our classes of
ships had been built in the 1970s with cast iron pipe work, which
had gradually been deteriorating. We went through a period of about
six months where we were picking up bacterial failures for total
viable counts. We didn't find anything that was pathogenic in the
water but there were very high background bacteria levels, which
indicated that the condition for bacterial growth was present. When
we discovered that the pipe work was in a very poor state, we stopped
the ship from sailing, as we were not happy that good quality water
could be maintained on board. We then oversaw the remedial works
to replace the pipe work before the ship went back to sea.
TK: Would you say that the direct entry route works
well?
NV: Currently there are two routes to be an EHO in the
Royal Navy. The first is where we take someone from within the lower
ranks - a non-commissioned medical assistant (MA) for instance -
and send them to university to undertake the environmental health
degree course. This route results in an EHO that has a significant
military background and experience of the Royal Navy. The second
route is the one that Alister and myself undertook which is to join
the Royal Navy as a qualified EHO. My only experience of the Royal
Navy has been seven months at BRNC along with the research I did
for the AIB. I've been working with the environmental health office
for the Royal Navy since April 2003, and have fitted in well to
working in a different environment.
AW: I think that the route has worked well as it has increased
the mix of people and experience within our specialisation. For
example, we have myself and Nic who have joined as EHOs, we have
one EHO who used to be a radiographer, one who used to be an MA
and one from an army background.
TK: Has it been an experiment for the navy, or is it
now policy?
AW: All branches in the Royal Navy recruit a mixture of
personnel from the direct graduate entry route and from within the
lower ranks, so the route was already well established. Being the
first person to try this as an EHO, it probably was an experiment
to see if somebody could fit into the naval environment as an EHO,
without previous knowledge and experience of the Royal Navy. The
route has proved successful for us and is now considered a good
means to recruit EHOs for the future.
NV: The difficulty we have is that when we decide we require
another EHO, we often already have a job available that needs to
be filled. With the direct graduate entry route it takes approximately
a year and a half from making the decision to actually getting somebody
into the post. But if it decided to take an EHO from within the
non-commissioned ranks it would take at least five years to get
that person in to a post as a qualified EHO.
TK:As Royal Navy EHOs, what do the standard inspections
you undertake involve?
AW: For a usual inspection there are two EHOs. One goes
on board to do a food hygiene inspection, which follows the usual
format from point of delivery to point of service. The second EHO
looks at other areas including occupational health, potable water,
habitability and infectious disease control.
NV: A normal inspection would be undertaken when a vessel
is alongside in the UK. However, if we wanted to do a noise survey
for example, we would have to make arrangements to join the ship
at sea. For instance I joined a ship in the Outer Hebrides in the
summer and sailed for three days doing a baseline noise survey.
TK:Finally, what advice would you give any other civilian
EHOs who might be thinking of following in your footsteps?
NV: It's not a closed door and we are aware of a very small
handful of people who are interested in a career in the Royal Navy,
which is always looking for good, professional EHPs.
AW: Currently there are no posts available. But I would
definitely encourage people who have an interest to contact us if
they fancy looking at environmental health from a different aspect
in a challenging and different environment.